FRIDAY THE 13TH: Tragedy In France

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  1. Tío Azúcar says:

    Not sure why this didn’t happen a year ago, but better late than never…………..

    U.S. Warplanes Strike ISIS Oil Trucks in Syria

    ISTANBUL — Intensifying pressure on the Islamic State, United States warplanes for the first time attacked hundreds of trucks on Monday that the extremist group has been using to smuggle the crude oil it has been producing in Syria, American officials said.
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    According to an initial assessment, 116 trucks were destroyed in the attack, which took place near Deir al-Zour, an area in eastern Syria that is controlled by the Islamic State.

    The airstrikes were carried out by four A-10 attack planes and two AC-130 gunships based in Turkey.

  2. waverly says:

    Good morning dearest Realm, Jack I do hope you are able to get yourself a new router so you can get back online here without your Wifi crapping out.

  3. thedood says:

    Hi kids! Just popping in…the Director of the cath lab emailed me with the position she got approved…had to apply online….she is leaving for Florida Wednesday and wants to move quickly so hopefully good news soon!
    Hope everyone has a great day! BBL!

  4. waverly says:

    An interesting portrait of the Paris attackers has emerged. I read about this “mastermind” guy and his commitment to jihad and his praises to Allah. It seems to me from everything that I have read that these Islamic State terrorists follow a very strict literal interpretation of the Koran. While their interpretation may not be the same as the majority of Muslims worldwide it is still nonetheless a religious interpretation and one that promotes death to all non-followers, not peace.

    The Islamic State DOES preach a strict form of Islam. And one that does NOT promote peace. I cannot see how People can say the Islamic State is not Islamic.

    While I in no way condone stigmatizing the refugees, I can understand how people are wary that they provide safe haven for the jihadis. Especially after reading about what the Paris attackers say in the Islamic State’s own propaganda publication – the ISIS magazine named after the city “Dabiq”

    Paris attack suspects: what do we know about them? | World news | The Guardian

    The alleged mastermind
    French officials have named Abdelhamid Abaaoud, a 27-year-old Belgian linked to a Brussels-based terror cell, as the alleged mastermind of the Paris attacks. He remains at large and is believed to be in Syria.

    In an interview with the Isis magazine Dabiq in February, Abaaoud boasted that he had been able to plot attacks against the west under the nose of Belgian intelligence agencies.

    Abaaoud, also known as Abu Umar al-Baljiki, said he and two fellow jihadis wanted to “terrorise the crusaders waging war against the Muslims”.

    Posing for photographs holding an Isis flag and the Qur’an, the bearded militant said he and two fellow fighters travelled to Belgium to wage jihad in the country.

    He boasted that he had been able to plan terror attacks against westerners while living in Belgium and being wanted by intelligence agencies. Some time later, he travelled to Syria.

    “I was able to leave … despite being chased by so many intelligence agencies,” he told the magazine. “All this proves that a Muslim should not fear the bloated image of the crusader intelligence.

    “My name and picture were all over the news yet I was able to stay in their homeland, plan operations against them, and leave safely when doing so became necessary.

    I ask Allah to accept the fruitful deeds of the shuhadā’ who terrorised the crusaders of America, France, Canada, Australia, Germany, and Belgium.”

  5. waverly says:

    Found this video on YouTube which warns against creating an “Us vs Them” mentality. This is very true and something we need to avoid if we don’t want to create more recruits for the terrorists.

    • waverly says:

      While I can understand that people have apprehension regarding Muslim communities, that doesn’t mean I want to create a black and white – Us vs Them mindset. Like the video says this is exactly what the Islamic State hopes happens.

      I hope that Muslim leaders within their various communities will step up to the plate and address these issues with their followers. And I hope the local governments where these communities reside will work with the Muslim leaders to make this happen.

  6. fi says:

    Evening folks, (koff, koff) Jack did you get yourself a new modem?

  7. fi says:

    Tonight in Paris.

  8. waverly says:

    Usually I would complain about O dragging his feet but in this instance I think he is being prudent here by refusing to put “boots on the ground” in Syria. It good that the US is focused now on destroying their income sources, evidenced by the recent destruction of their Oil trucks in Syria.

    I can only hope that the “powers that be” like those attending the G20 have discussed possible scenarios for when ISIS is defeated. (That needs to be worked out NOW.) What kind of voids and and power structure repercussions will that create. All the things that were neglected consideration whenever the US got involved in over throwing the leaders of other sovereign nations. Focus does however, need to be kept on Syria (and Iraq) as this is where ISIS has control of the land that they have used to establish their caliphate. Without this land they lose their power to recruit.

    Obama rules out Syria ground invasion in passionate defence of Isis strategy | World news | The Guardian

    Pressure has been mounting among American politicians for a more robust military intervention against Isis in the wake of the terrorist attacks on Paris on Friday.

    But Obama accused his critics of failing to explain what ground forces would do once they had retaken territory controlled by Isis and suggested the strategy could be a slippery slope toward the US occupation of other countries such as Yemen and Libya.

  9. waverly says:

    Jsut a quick check,of,the inter webs to be what our dear Donald is up to shows that he is spouting off on things we SHOULD have been doing. Like cutting off financing of ISIS by eliminating their oil.

    Yeah Ok, Donald we’re doing that. Ya got any other helpful suggestions? Then he starts talking about closing mosques. WHAT? Once again he enters jackass territory with his bonehead suggestions. The Muslim population in many cases already feels marginalized and now he want to add fuel to the fire. Many turn to their mosques for comfort and guidance. He wants to take that away? This is exactly what the Islamic State hopes will happen, so Muslims have no where else to go and no other options but to join the ISIS extremists.

    • Tío Azúcar says:

      Not to defend Donald, but I’ve been baffled for the last year as to why we hadn’t hit the oil infrastructure. It’s been well know, that they were trucking oil into Turkey for distribution. That has been a major source of their funding. Like i said above, ‘better late than never’. But seriously, what the hell took so long?
      Gotta say after the strafing runs with 30-millimeter Gatling guns. There ain’t a mechanic on earth gonna get those trucks back on the road. Those particular munitions make one hell of a can opener.

      • waverly says:

        Hey CBD, I wondered that too, why we didn’t do this earlier. From what I’ve read the “official” explanation was because the US did not want to incur civilian casualties. Now the “official” word is they drop pamphlets about an hour before the air strike saying that they are coming giving civilians time to get away.

  10. Tío Azúcar says:

    Sounds like the French are back over Raqqa today.
    Bonne Chance, Mon Ami !!!!!!!!!!!!

    • waverly says:

      They are committed to their declaration of war against the Islamic State who seem to have made Raqqa their center of operations. At least Raqqa contains easily identifiable targets that make these air strikes worthwhile.

    • waverly says:

      France to intensify airstrikes against Isis in Syria | World news | The Guardian

      Unveiling a raft of hardline measures to counter domestic extremism, the French president told an exceptional assembly of both houses of parliament at the Palace of Versailles: “France is at war … But we are not engaged in a war of civilisations, because these assassins do not represent any civilisation.”

      A day after French jets pounded Isis targets in the terror group’s Syrian stronghold of Raqqa, Hollande said the aerial campaign would be stepped up, announcing a tripling of France’s strike capacity in the region with the departure of the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle for the eastern Mediterranean.

      He also said he would be meeting the US and Russian presidents, Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin, in the coming weeks in an effort to build “a union of all who can fight this terrorist army in a single coalition”.

  11. fancykat says:

    Jambon also reportedly warned of the growing use by terror networks of the PlayStation 4 gaming console, which allows terrorists to communicate with each other and is difficult for the authorities to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.

  12. waverly says:

    France will be meeting the US and Russian presidents, Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin, in the coming weeks in an effort to build “a union of all who can fight this terrorist army in a single coalition.

    It is ironic now, that the US would join with Russia to defeat the “mujahideen”. When 30 years ago Reagan spoke with the “mujahideen” in the Oval Office in efforts to neutralize the influence of the Soviet Union. (No wonder America is seen as hypocritical.)

    Check out this picture in wiki, it come from the Reagan Archives.

  13. Jack Charles says:

    Hey I’m back, sorry got side tracked-imagine I’m trying to procrastinate but the wife won’t let me

    • waverly says:

      Hey while you were gone – Hollande said he wants to DESTOY ISIS. “It is not about containing, but about destroying that organization. They are not out of our reach.”

      And he plans to ask the US and Russia to join in this effort.

      What do you think about that?

  14. Jack Charles says:

    Oops! I see that you guys are still up for a convo on terrorism—I started a page last night lets see if was archived so I can finnish it.

  15. bebe says:

    One of my neighbor ( Dem) tells me today her Dad who once voted for Mondale likes Trump now , oh my 🙄

  16. FOUR EYES says:

    “The US today (Nov. 16) redoubled its offensive on ISIL’s financial bedrock—its oil industry. But it arguably went after the wrong targets—not ISIL itself, but some 300 smuggler-driven trucks carrying fuel to market. By the time such fuel is loaded into trucks, there’s a good chance ISIL has already been paid.

    “No one outside the organization can say with certainty how much ISIL earns from its control of oil and natural gas fields in Iraq and Syria. But in one of the best stabs at an estimate, the Financial Times reports the figure at about $1.5 million a day, or half a billion dollars a year.

    “The FT estimate is based on 34,000 to 40,000 barrels of oil production per day, sold at the oilfield to traders for between $20 and $45 a barrel. The newspaper tracked the main smuggling routes.

    “Much of the oil and fuel is sold locally, including to the Syrian regime; only a minority is exported.

    “The US, reluctant to destroy the oilfields themselves because they would be hard to bring back on line if ISIL can be defeated, has largely limited its attacks to the accouterments of oil production, such as refineries.

    “Prior to the Nov. 13 attacks on Paris, there were reports that the US had begun to destroy some infrastructure at the oilfields, such as fuel oil equipment and pumping stations. And now, the US has announced the attack on hundreds of trucks delivering fuel from ISIL fields.

    “But in doing so, the US destroys the livelihoods of drivers and traders, not ISIL—which, along with other smugglers, will figure out another way to get its fuel to market.”

    Basically, looks good on paper….8-)

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